11 thoughts on “Lent: Part 6

  1. volus

    My Two Cents: Part 6

    A delightful film. I’ve always loved a good twisty plot, and already having the turn-of-the-last-century electrical revolution on my mind, all the better. I would have appreciated them either making it a little harder to figure out what was “really” going on, or sped up their reveal to the slow members of the audience, though. The last 15 minutes dragged more than they needed to.

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    1. giddeon

      Re: My Two Cents: Part 6

      I really liked the fact that the reveal (to anyone paying attention) happened a fair way before the end. The sheer horribleness of the thing just kept sinking in deeper and deeper as I watched, in a way that it wouldn’t have if it were a sudden reveal at the end. It also made it less of one of those sudden-suprise-ending sorts of movies (not nescessarily a good or bad thing, but it does make it a bit different).

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      1. volus

        Re: My Two Cents: Part 6

        But it dedicated the last 10 minutes or so of the movie to building up tension FOR one of those sudden-surprise-ending kind of moves, despite it already being obvious. In particular, the explanation for “The Original Transported Man” was one I figured out about 45 minutes in…spending a 5-minute scene explaining it all dragged it down a bit.

        Still highly recommended, though.

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        1. spherical

          Re: My Two Cents: Part 6

          Agreed, although Mike has a good point, in that cinematically it was very useful for them to be able to extend the sense of atrocity. The very final camera shot was irritating, though. It was shot as a big reveal, but it was only a big reveal for people who happened to go to the bathroom during the wrong parts of the movie.

          I have to say, though, as much as I liked the movie, the more me and Semra talked about it, the more we realized that there were quite a lot of plot holes. There weren’t any giant gaping ones, just a lot of smallish ones, which I suppose isn’t bad for a script of that complexity, but it’s still annoying in retrospect.

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          1. volus

            Re: My Two Cents: Part 6

            Hmm. I’d be curious to hear what you thought didn’t work. In retrospect, I realized that the “private screening” of the Real Transported Man trick actually made absolutely no sense, but that was the only whole I noticed.

  2. volus

    Re: My Two Cents: Part 6

    You might want to delete this rather spoiler-heavy comment, as I’d actually meant “I should remember to ask you next time you’re around.” I’ll respond as vaguely as possible and let you delete your original.

    I’ll grant you 1, 2, and maybe 3, though you don’t know that he didn’t have or make another of his own…perhaps he lead a rather posh retirement. And Angiers paid through the nose for what he got.

    4 could go to the assumption that Borden had simply heard about the research which he assumed was nonsense and thought it would be a great red herring.

    5 is unlikely, but remember that the two spent much of their time together. Routine could resolve much of the trouble.

    6 is very strange, but recall that Borden had this trick planned even from the early days of he and Angiers work together. By the time they first met, Angiers was already living under an assumed name that he may or may not have even shared with his wife. That Borden also had secrets isn’t impossible. The decsision to go through with it could have been made as late as the Bullet Catch.

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    1. spherical

      Re: My Two Cents: Part 6

      I figured no spoiler warning was neccesary as this was obviously a discussion about the plot. But, since it’s just us talking about it: [deleted].

      4. I agree that it seems that Borden merely thought it was a convenient red herring. My problem is ridiculous happenstance that the red herring just happens to lead to someone who can in fact provide exactly what Angiers wants, without having to be told exactly what that is, and while playing along the red herring plot.

      5. I simply think this should have been addressed. They made it look like the mere act of dressing up, but it would neccesarily been much more than that.

      6. Again, it could be explained, but is improbable.

      Like I said, lots of little holes; the weight of compounding improbabilities. Frankly, the only two I think are signficant problems are 1 and 3 & 4 (since now that I look at it those two are basically the same). Essentially they had two major characters who had significant holes in their motivations. In the case of #1, the script couldn’t even keep straight what it was he was supposed to know.

      But still, I’d say it maintains A-/B+ territory.

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  3. MacCrocodile Post author

    You were, but now it’s all I can think about.

    Imagining Calvin and Hobbes as competing magicians, and a cardboard box with “Transported Man” written on the side.

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